tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20471270.post424920104839689629..comments2023-05-13T12:42:00.360+01:00Comments on PamBG's Blog: God Hates SinPamBGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11324370506889227234noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20471270.post-23296221726891659062011-10-18T03:46:08.479+01:002011-10-18T03:46:08.479+01:00Creed, I'm not entirely certain what point you...Creed, I'm not entirely certain what point you're trying to make here?<br /><br />We both agree that God hates sin. It sounds like you are convinced that the 33% figure is based on bogus claims and therefore, preachers shouldn't worry about alienating this population? <br /><br /><i>Our Methodist identity needs to be more than simply a refuge for Catholics and Southern Baptists who had unhappy experiences in their former churches.</i><br /><br />We started out as a refuge for people with "unhappy" experiences in the Church of England. As in, Calvinist Anglicanism told them that their status as the poorest of the poor was physical proof that they were damned.<br /><br />We <i>can't</i> go back and replicate these sociological factors. We <i>can</i> continue to proclaim the central Methodist tenet of prevenient grace. Something that British Methodism never lost and that I'm beginning to think that American Methodism may never have had in its enthusiasm to copy conservative evangelicalism.PamBGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11324370506889227234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20471270.post-3033186947933838782011-10-18T03:02:43.414+01:002011-10-18T03:02:43.414+01:00Is there really a difference between "deplore...Is there really a difference between "deplore" and "hate"?<br /><br />God hates many of our actions, inactions, thoughts and desires. That doesn't make Him any less open to our attempts to be more Christ-like. <br /><br />I worry about discussions of abuse that seem to define every relationship with any unhealthy moments as abusive. There are plenty of times that my relationship with my father is dysfunctional, but compared to those who are physically or sexually abused or deeply emotionally damaged by their parents, mine is almost idyllic. I would feel that I was insulting and insensitive to those in truly abusive relationships if I tried to equate them.<br /><br />Maybe your next post will clarify these things. Our Methodist identity needs to be more than simply a refuge for Catholics and Southern Baptists who had unhappy experiences in their former churches.cspoguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225508688155073922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20471270.post-54402504412329059512011-10-17T19:37:26.321+01:002011-10-17T19:37:26.321+01:00What J said.What J said."Sir"https://www.blogger.com/profile/03459619874470824848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20471270.post-46713570475344511352011-10-16T19:23:51.801+01:002011-10-16T19:23:51.801+01:00Very interesting Pam. The word hate is a powerful ...Very interesting Pam. The word hate is a powerful word. I think the word deplores or disaproves of can be used in the human vocabularly rather than hate. I aslo think the Lord sees us as deplorable children doing wicked things. He disaproves of our ways, which are self-centered not God centered. Look forward to your next blog on this subject.J A Y Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11575488467713996955noreply@blogger.com